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\nIn an Australian first, a tiny home project has been approved for disadvantaged and the homeless in NSW. CEO and Co-Founder of The Tiny Homes Foundation, David Wooldridge<\/strong> joins me to discuss the initiative.
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Kevin:<\/b>\u00a0 In an Australian first, a Tiny Homes Project has been approved for disadvantaged and homeless people in New South Wales. The CEO and co-founder of the Tiny Homes Foundation, David Wooldridge, joins me.
\nDavid, good morning. Thanks for your time.
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 Good morning, Kevin.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 It\u2019s a pretty exciting project, I guess, on many levels. Tell us why it\u2019s such an important undertaking.
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 It\u2019s important because of the scale of homelessness that\u2019s in Australia at the moment. By all reports, there are over 100,000 people homeless at any given point in time in Australia. Given the resources and the wealth and the capacity and the lifestyle that most of us enjoy, it\u2019s just a problem that shouldn\u2019t exist.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Tell us about the project itself. How is it being formed, and how many people will you be able to help?
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 Initially, we\u2019re only going to be able to help four, so it\u2019s tiny not only in size of the dwellings but in terms of numbers that we can help. But it\u2019s really just a case of one step at a time.
\nThe project is sited in Gosford on the Central Coast, which is an hour north of Sydney, and it\u2019s next to a pretty large hospital, about 500 meters away from the main railway station and commercial center there.
\nIt\u2019s on a 500 square meter rough sized block of land, and we\u2019re going to put 14-square-meter homes there that\u2019ll be self-contained in terms of having their own kitchen, their own bathroom, their own sleeping and living area, a little outside deck, their own little garden and yard space, but they\u2019ll have a shared laundry and a shared communications, TV, Internet room, and some community veggie gardens.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Are you providing this to them free of charge?
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 No. These will be provided through state government-registered housing providers. They\u2019ll actually sub-license the homes from us, and then they\u2019ll actually source and put tenants in there and charge them according to the scale of how they set rents.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 And the land itself, I think you said 500 square meters of land. Is that right?
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 It\u2019s between 500 and 600 square meters.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Are you the owner of the land?
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 No. Council has given us use of the land for $1 for a couple of years to just test out this model.
\nKevin:\u00a0 <\/b>So you\u2019re actually putting the homes on the site. Is that your role in it?
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 We\u2019re building the homes in conjunction with TAFE Outreach and a skills generator who are a registered training provider and do work for the dole programs. We\u2019re really linking a Housing First strategy together with training, and hopefully as this thing scales up, we\u2019ll put together social venture businesses that can create real, sustainable, long-term employment opportunities for many of the residents.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 We\u2019ve done a number of stories on Tiny houses, most of them focusing on sustainability and affordability of the homes themselves. Are these things a top priority in this project also?
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 Well, yes and no. Obviously, the most important thing is to alleviate homelessness. The benefit of Tiny is that if something costs you less than presumably for whatever resources and funding you have available, you can build more of them. That\u2019s one aspect of it.
\nBut the purpose is not to do them for the cheapest possible cost, but because of the collaboration that we have with all of the different partnering organizations and the support\u2019s been overwhelmingly favorable. We have a lot of pro bono free\/subsidized support for everything from building materials right through labor and the internal shipment of the Tiny homes themselves.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 It\u2019s a great exercise, David. It sounds to me as if you\u2019re doing this to help people get back on their feet. Are these Tiny houses a bit of a hand up for these people? How long will they stay in them?
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 That\u2019s a really good question, Kevin. They\u2019ll stay in them as long as they need to stay in them. Our view is that we would hope that they\u2019re transitional and that as people do get their lives sorted out and work through whatever issues have been predominant in leading them into homelessness in the first place, that they\u2019ll be able to use these as a stepping stone and then move on to whatever other form of housing works for where they want to head in life.
\nOne of the things we\u2019re most excited about is that \u2013 and again this is a bit of an Australian first in many respects \u2013 is that we\u2019re going to attach an equity participation scheme to these. The old adage is that rent money is dead money, so what we want to do is we want to say, \u201cOkay, whatever the rental we receive from the housing provider for these Tiny homes, whatever is not used in the actual repayment on an interest-free basis of the cost, which is circa $30,000 per home, or for the ongoing maintenance of the property itself, then that money would be set aside and be counted as if it were equity towards the tenants.\u201d
\nThen if they need to move on and pay a rental bond or buy some white goods as they move into another form of housing accommodation down the track, then they can come and apply for that money to be released for their benefit. I think that\u2019s a pretty revolutionary concept.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Fantastic. It\u2019s clear to me in all of these things that you need council support. We spoke to the Mayor of Byron Bay a few weeks ago. He\u2019s considering a similar plan for his local community. Are you looking for other councils around Australia to adopt these types of projects?
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 Absolutely, we will be. We\u2019re not trying to set up the next biggest charity and solve homelessness all by ourselves. I think it\u2019s too big a problem. Our solution is part of it and not the only solution. There are many other great ideas and concepts out there. And it doesn\u2019t necessarily have to come through us. That\u2019s why we\u2019re making everything that we\u2019re doing available as an open-source model.
\nSo all of our plans, our learnings, our documents, etc., over time, we\u2019ll release all of those so that other people who have the same capacity to bring into play all of their collaborative partners \u2013 including councils \u2013 that they can actually replicate this anywhere in Australia or indeed the world.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 All power to you, mate. Well done, and it\u2019s a privilege talking to you. I really appreciate you giving us your time this morning.
\nI\u2019ve been talking to the CEO and co-founder of Tiny Homes Foundation, David Wooldridge.
\nDavid, thank you so much for your time.
\nDavid:<\/b>\u00a0 No problem. Thank you, Kevin.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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