{"id":5842,"date":"2015-09-23T01:00:44","date_gmt":"2015-09-22T15:00:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/realestatetalk.com.au\/?p=5842"},"modified":"2015-09-23T01:00:44","modified_gmt":"2015-09-22T15:00:44","slug":"cross-collateralization-of-properties","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/channels.realty.com.au\/realtytalk\/cross-collateralization-of-properties\/","title":{"rendered":"Cross-collateralization of properties &#8211; Andrew Mirams"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<br \/>\nMichelle writes: \u201cI was interested to hear about Andrew Miram\u2019s warning about cross-collateralization and found myself confused between that and using equity in your home to purchase additional property. Are you able to elaborate on the distinct difference and potential gray areas between the two? Where is using equity in an investment property not considered cross-collateralization?\u201d. In today&#8217;s show, together with\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/realestatetalk.com.au\/featured-channel\/andrew-mirams\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Andrew Mirams<\/strong><\/a> from Intuitive Finance, we answers Michelle&#8217;s questions\u00a0about cross-collateralization of properties.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\n<strong style=\"font-size: 1em\">Transcript:<\/strong><br \/>\n<b>Kevin<\/b>:\u00a0 I spoke last week on the show to Andrew Mirams from Intuitive Finance. We had a good chat about cross-collateralization \u2013 cross-collateralizing properties and all of the pros and cons of doing it \u2013 which led to an e-mail from Michelle. Thanks, Michelle.<br \/>\nMichelle writes: \u201cI was interested to hear about Andrew Miram\u2019s warning about cross-collateralization and found myself confused between that and using equity in your home to purchase additional property. Are you able to elaborate on the distinct difference and potential gray areas between the two? Where is using equity in an investment property not considered cross-collateralization?\u201d<br \/>\nGreat question, Michelle. I\u2019ll refer straight to Andrew Mirams.<br \/>\nAndrew, a very good question.<br \/>\n<b>Andrew<\/b>:\u00a0 A brilliant question, Kevin, and I think this is still a little area of confusion in the markets. I think the key point is whether you have one loan secured by two properties or two properties with individual loans against them.<br \/>\n<b>Kevin<\/b>:\u00a0 Is it that simple?<br \/>\n<b>Andrew<\/b>:\u00a0 Well, it is to me, but this is what we do, of course. I think if you have one loan and there are two properties, and still if you have multiple facilities against that, but there are two properties held, they\u2019re cross-securitized. What cross-securitized means or cross-collateralized means is that there\u2019s more than one property that secures those loans.<br \/>\nThe question was \u2013 you\u2019re right, it\u2019s a great question \u2013 can you use the equity from one property to assist you to buy another property? That\u2019s not cross-securitized. That\u2019s using your equity to help you grow your portfolio, and that\u2019s really smart, really strategic. That\u2019s the way I think you should be doing it and the way we certainly encourage and advocate doing it. But not the other way around.<br \/>\n<b>Kevin<\/b>:\u00a0 Let\u2019s hypothetically say that Michelle is with lender A on a particular property. By going to lender A to secure another property, that is cross-collateralization?<br \/>\n<b>Andrew<\/b>:\u00a0 Not necessarily. Not unless they\u2019re using the equity to assist. Let\u2019s just say, for rough numbers, the home is worth $500,000, and they have a $100,000 loan. So from bank terms, there\u2019s $300,000 in equity, using an 80% loan to value ratio.<br \/>\nIf you then go and you buy another property for $500,000, and you finance the $500,000 plus the stamp duties and fees and whatever it costs, it might be about $530,000, $540,000, and you do that all in one loan. The equity to be able to give you 105% against that property has to come from somewhere, and that\u2019s where they\u2019ll link the two properties together.<br \/>\nA more strategic way would be to take the balance of your equity from property A, as we said, Have a line of credit for the $300,000, and then use that as your 20% plus your fees and your contribution into property B for the $500,000. Do a loan at 80% loan-to-value ratio there, and they\u2019re now very separate. Still 100% tax deductible because you still used the funds out of property A to be able to buy property B.<br \/>\nBut they\u2019re just not linked. Should one go up or down or you want to sell or refinance because you have some equity gain, they\u2019re not linked, and they can&#8217;t be held against each other by doing it that way.<br \/>\n<b>Kevin<\/b>:\u00a0 That can be done with the one lender?<br \/>\n<b>Andrew<\/b>:\u00a0 Absolutely, yes. We still do them. A little golden rule we have with most of our people is somewhere between two and four properties at a lender, because that gives us the opportunity to negotiate great rates, great outcomes for our clients, but also not get too deep into just one lender, and making sure then we look to have some other opportunities with other lenders so that we can at time, whether exploit or whether just take opportunities of different rates or fees or credit policies at times with different lenders.<br \/>\n<b>Kevin<\/b>:\u00a0 There you go. Great question. Thanks, Michelle, and we\u2019re going to send you a 12-month subscription to <i>Australian Property Investor<\/i> magazine for that question.<br \/>\nAndrew Mirams from Intuitive Finance, thank you for answering it.<br \/>\n<b>Andrew<\/b>:\u00a0 My pleasure, Kevin. Thanks.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Michelle writes: \u201cI was interested to hear about Andrew Miram\u2019s warning about cross-collateralization and found myself confused between that and using equity in your home to purchase additional property. 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