{"id":20847,"date":"2018-04-15T01:00:14","date_gmt":"2018-04-14T15:00:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/realestatetalk.com.au\/?p=20847"},"modified":"2018-04-15T01:00:14","modified_gmt":"2018-04-14T15:00:14","slug":"guns-and-property-kathleen-norris","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/channels.realty.com.au\/realtytalk\/guns-and-property-kathleen-norris\/","title":{"rendered":"Guns and property \u2013 Kathleen Norris"},"content":{"rendered":"

We learn the key steps to cleaning up dangerous neighbourhoods from someone who should know.\u00a0 Kathleen Norris<\/strong> is the managing principal of US based Urban Fast Forward and we caught up with her on her Australian visit.\u00a0 She now says she has a whole new appreciation about how guns have impacted her home country.
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\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m really excited to talk to my next guest. In fact, as we speak, we\u2019re bouncing off about nine satellites as we worked out. Kathleen Norris is the managing principal of Urban Fast Forward and is in Australia. She is from the U.S. and she is speaking at the UDIA Congress in Melbourne as we speak right now.
\nKathleen, thank you for spending some time with us. Isn\u2019t technology a wonderful thing?
\nKathleen:<\/strong>\u00a0 Isn\u2019t it amazing? Here we are, and ten years ago, we couldn\u2019t have even done this.
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 I know. It\u2019s incredible. Now, you\u2019re here to talk to a whole group of people \u2013 you\u2019ve done that already, I understand \u2013 about cleaning up dangerous neighborhoods. What are the key steps to doing that, and have you been able to see any while you\u2019re in Australia?
\nKathleen:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think Australia has a very different definition of a dangerous neighborhood than we do in the United States, because you very wisely have good gun policy. As I\u2019m sure your listeners know, the United States has not achieved that yet, so our dangerous neighborhoods can be genuinely quite dangerous.
\nWe also have a lot of old neighborhoods where our most disadvantaged population has often been gathered, and unhappiness does not breed good neighborhood safety.
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Putting aside guns for a moment, what are the key steps to cleaning up those dangerous neighborhoods that we can learn from?
\nKathleen:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think the very first step, whether it relates to guns or not guns, is to move toward making the neighborhood safe. That relates to good community activation. It involves creating or maintaining or improving relationships with the police. It involves identifying where the problems are in the neighborhood, and very often, it\u2019s the neighbors who know, and getting them to share that information and feeling safe in sharing it. Safety is certainly the first thing.
\nAnd then clean, what we call in the United States \u201csafe and clean\u201d is a common pair. Are those streets really in good condition? Are there rubbish bins that are regularly emptied? Are there good businesses on the streets? Are their neighborhood amenities of any kind? How do we introduce a higher level of safe and clean into our neighborhoods?
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 We\u2019re talking here about improving the way we live, both from a safety point of view and how we live. Is part of the answer micro cities, and if so, can you just tell me how you go about creating one?
\nKathleen:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m not sure I truly understand the term \u201cmicro city.\u201d I think probably the development pattern in the United States is quite different from Australia, and I think what you\u2019re calling a \u201cmicro city\u201d might be what we call a neighborhood, where it has its own personality. It\u2019s related to the larger infrastructure picture, but it has a unique character. It\u2019s beloved by its particular residents. And you have to build on that character and make sure that it\u2019s a well-integrated place to live.
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 In Australia, what can we learn from the U.S. in terms of building these safer micro cities or neighborhoods, as you call them?
\nKathleen:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I have to say first that I\u2019m going to pass that back the other way and say that I have been so impressed in Australia by what you are doing here and by how the nation is growing and how there\u2019s policy at both the federal, the state, and even the local level to ensure that growth is well managed.
\nBut I think you\u2019re going to face a connectivity crisis, and I think that will be the thing that you\u2019re going to want to address, because as you develop the regional cities \u2013 the Geelongs, the Tamworths, the Oranges, and even the next generation of cities that are coming along behind \u2013 they\u2019re going to have to be connected to the center.
\nYour housing prices are so high that those smaller cities are starting to have real appeal to residents, but first of all, can I get into the center if I\u2019m working in the center? And then second, if I live in one of those cities, is there a job for me? Those are the things that I think will be interesting for you to tackle here.
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Just a couple of points, if I could pick up on those, and you make some very good points there. Is infill the answer? As we look at some of those areas you\u2019re talking about and spreading out from the capital cities because there\u2019s potential there for great infill and also really good transportation with fast speed rail and so on, Kathleen?
\nKathleen:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think that\u2019s absolutely right. I think at the moment, we project ourselves into the future, 20, 30, 40, maybe even 50 years. I\u2019m not sure, but what, in 100 years, we won\u2019t have any regional centers; we\u2019ll just have a vast plane of development, and connectivity will be absolutely key to the success of that.
\nWe talk now about green fields and moving out into the green fields. In 100 years, will there be any green fields? Will we need to be completely connected throughout that? And infill, yes. Urban infill is a huge area of opportunity. But at some point, we\u2019re going to have it all filled.
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Just picking up on another point, too, and that is connectivity. When we talk about connectivity, I instantly think of the Internet, technology, and our ability to work remotely but still have that relationship with someone in a cap city. Is that a help as well, Kathleen?
\nKathleen:<\/strong>\u00a0 Much to your earlier point that you and I are bouncing off nine satellites and that that is something we couldn\u2019t even have imagined ten years ago, I\u2019m not sure we know what the advantages of technology will be ten or more years hence. But what we have discovered is that people resist anything that will keep them from human connection.
\nWe thought a while back that everyone was going to be able to work from home, that we\u2019d have that kind of Internet connectivity. What we really want is human connectivity. That\u2019s what we\u2019ve discovered.
\nSo, we\u2019re going to have to figure out how to do what we need to do but also keep people engaged with each other.
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Kathleen, just to round this out \u2013 it\u2019s been a delight talking to you; thank you so much for spending some time with us \u2013 what\u2019s the thing that you are passionate, or most passionate, about?
\nKathleen:<\/strong>\u00a0 I am passionate about cities. I really, really love cities, and one of the things that I love most about them is that they are cross-cultural centers. If I go down into the heart of Melbourne right now, I will bump up against so many people who are unlike me, who are younger, who are older, who have a different history or a different heritage.
\nI love the fact that in a city, we get to see all that panoply of humanity, and I think it actually helps to humanize us. It helps to make us less afraid of each other when we intersect in public space. And cities are really where that occurs.
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Kathleen, it has been a delight talking to you. Thank you so much. It\u2019s been very enjoyable bouncing off these satellites with you, I have to say, so thank you so much for your time.
\nKathleen:<\/strong>\u00a0 My absolute pleasure.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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