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What can you learn from a Mentor?\u00a0 That is a question Sarah Megginson from Your Investment Property and I ask Helen Collier-Kogtevs<\/strong>.
\nTranscript:<\/strong>
\nKevin:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Hi, I\u2019m Kevin Turner from Real Estate Talk, and joining me on this special podcast, Sarah Megginson from\u00a0Your Investment Property<\/em>\u00a0magazine.
\nGood day, Sarah. How are you doing?
\nSarah:\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>Hi, Kevin. How are you?
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Good to be talking again. Sarah, we decided we\u2019d get together and talk about education, what you can learn from having a mentor, and both of us are so impressed with what Helen Collier-Kogtevs has done from Real Wealth Australia. We decided we\u2019d get together and invite Helen to join us, which she is about to do right now.
\nHelen, how are you?
\nHelen:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m doing well, Kevin. Hi, Sarah. Great to be back, guys
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Nice to have you with us, Helen. Now, a lot of this is going to be without notice, so we\u2019ll just fire into it, but as I said at the outset, I\u2019m so impressed with what you\u2019ve done. You\u2019ve dedicated most of your life to educating people about property.
\nWhat can we actually learn from a mentor, Helen?
\nHelen:<\/strong>\u00a0 A property mentor \u2013 any mentor really, Kevin \u2013 should be someone who takes you from where you are today to where you want to be. As a general rule, I like to work with mentors who I resonate with, who have achieved what it is what I want to do achieve.<\/em> That\u2019s a key factor here.
\nIf I want to buy a hundred properties, I would look for a mentor who has that kind of wealth because they\u2019re the ones who have really have to go the experience, the know-how, the knowledge, they\u2019ve made the mistakes, they\u2019ve gone through the process, and you can really leverage their knowledge and experience.
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 How do you know, though, Helen, that the person you\u2019re choosing isn\u2019t just selling themselves, because at the end of the day, they\u2019re all sales people and they do that very well?
\nHelen:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely they do, yes. And how you actually identify the right person is really by asking a lot of questions. You have to do your own research. If I\u2019m looking for a mentor, I\u2019ll Google them, I\u2019ll ask for some references. I want to see who has some runs on the board. I want them to prove them it to me. I\u2019m quite a facts-and-figures type of girl, so I want to see some facts, some data, some actual case studies.
\nSarah:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s really interesting, Helen, because we were chatting before and you were talking about the fact that you personally have lots of mentors yourself. You\u2019re someone who is dedicated yourself to educating others but you also still tune in to the experts above you to keep on the right track.<\/em>
\nWhat are some of the areas you get your own personal mentoring in?
\nHelen:<\/strong>\u00a0 I guess back in the early days when I started the journey with property investing, I was looking for property mentors, and I found some great people who really allowed me to go from having a whole lot of credit card debt and I had a car loan and I was renting, all of that. I was able to turn my life around and retire at 37. I credit my mentors at that stage for that result.
\nI have learned lots and I\u2019ve continued the property investing journey, however, when I decided \u201cYou know what? I can retire now,\u201d I\u2019m not one to play tennis all day and I\u2019m not one to watch TV. It\u2019s like \u201cWhat am I going to do with the rest of my life?\u201d
\nThat\u2019s a key question you need to ask yourself because when you retire\u2026 I\u2019m 37. It\u2019s not like I was 107. I had the rest of my life ahead of me. What did I want to do? What was I passionate about? That\u2019s where teaching others what I got from my mentors and my own experience added into that.
\nThe lifestyle that I gained, I wanted to share that with others, so that\u2019s where it all came from. However, I had no idea how to run a business. When I decided \u201cThat\u2019s it,\u201d I quit the corporate job. I was home and it was like \u201cOkay, I want to teach people how to invest in property and build property portfolios.\u201d I had no idea how to find clients. I had no idea about marketing. I didn\u2019t know a great deal about running a business, so I went looking for business mentors.
\nI\u2019ve had that mindset of looking for mentors all the way through. In fact, as we were just talking a little bit earlier, I have an eight-year-old now, a gorgeous little girl who is the light of my life. When she was born, I don\u2019t know about other women, but I was a bit freaked out by it. I went from being this corporate woman, to retiring, to having a great lifestyle, to all of a sudden, being at the beck and call of this tiny little human being.
\nSure, I knew how to change nappies and do all of that, but I want to be the best version of myself. I want to be the best mother, the best mentor. I want to be able to expand myself so that I have a full life \u2013 so much so that I even had a mentor with parenting, how to be empathetic, how to understand children and their feelings, and how to grow them up where they are well-balanced people.
\nI don\u2019t just look at business and property as mentoring. Even if want to learn to sew quilts, I would look for a person who really knows how to do great quilts, who has maybe won awards with their quilting, whether it be local shows or whatever. I have friend like that, so I know who to go to if I wanted to learn how to quilt.
\nThat\u2019s what I do, that\u2019s how I go about looking for the right mentor<\/em>, regardless of what area of my life I\u2019m looking in.
\nSarah:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s kind of that you\u2019ve had that experience of seeing exactly what mentoring can do for you in your own life, so you\u2019re able to that or inform your style as a mentor.
\nHelen:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly right, Sarah.
\nSarah:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Awesome.
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Picking up on a point you made earlier, Helen, and that is that you didn\u2019t know what you didn\u2019t know. I guess that\u2019s the thing about learning, isn\u2019t it? We just don\u2019t know. Especially if you\u2019re going to go into something like investing in property, it looks so easy until you start to do it and then you find how many mistakes you can make.
\nI wonder if you\u2019d just help me, though, Helen, because there is a popular misconception about being able to afford to invest in property. Can anyone do it?
\nHelen:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, they can, Kevin. Absolutely they can. They have to want to do it. If people are going to go about their normal day spending all their money and not really taking care of their pennies, then no, but for those who are willing to make some changes, save, pay their bills, not overspend, even with all the APRA changes and ASIC changes and bank changes, all that is going on right now, I have quite a number of case studies here that I can talk about now, of clients who have been able to purchase property even with all of the changes going on. Just last week alone, we had three clients go and purchase property and sign contracts.
\nIt can be done; you just got to be willing to do it, obviously, learn the process so that you don\u2019t make mistakes, and then having a mentor to guide and navigate you is what accelerates that.
\nI have one client, Bruce, he\u2019s Asian, and he came to me one time and he said, \u201cHelen, I want to buy a property, however, my friends all keep telling me I should buy blue chip properties.\u201d You\u2019ve probably heard that yourselves.
\nSarah:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.
\nHelen:<\/strong>\u00a0 Blue chip, 2 km to 10 km from the city, or maybe 2 km to 20 km if you\u2019re in Sydney.
\nHe said, \u201cThat\u2019s what I\u2019m going to buy.\u201d He had $50,000 as a deposit, on a single income. So, he\u2019s single, $80,000 a year, and he wanted to buy blue chip property. I said, \u201cOkay, Bruce, what\u2019s your strategy?\u201d
\nWhen I talk about strategy, there are 13 key ingredients to formulating a strategy. It\u2019s not \u201cOh, do I buy capital growth? Or do I buy cash flow? Do I buy blue chip? Do I buy a development? Do I buy and renovate?\u201d It\u2019s not that; it\u2019s deeper than that.
\nIt\u2019s about your financial situation, and identify where you\u2019re at in life, what are your goals? What\u2019s your budget? What\u2019s your lifestyle? What\u2019s your financial position? How does the bank view you? How do you want to structure your assets? Do you want to buy in trust? Is it superannuation? What is it you want to achieve?
\nWhen you lay that all out on the table, it\u2019s actually quite in depth, so it takes a little while to sort through that to formulate a strategy. But with Bruce, he said, \u201cNo.\u201d Blue chip capital cities is all he wanted to do because that\u2019s what everybody told him.
\nWhen we did for strategy with him, he actually realized that had he bought a blue-chip property, the banks would have lent him the money, of course, no problem. He would have bought one, but only one.
\nBecause he did that strategy and actually went through the process, Bruce, even as a single guy on $80,000\u2026 And half way through all of this mind you, he was made redundant, he moved states and got a new job, and in the new job, he now earns $95,000. He\u2019s now up to purchasing his fifth property. That\u2019s like today, now. It\u2019s not back in 2015 or 2012; it\u2019s right now.
\nThat\u2019s just a perfect example of when you\u2019re driven and when you want to do this\u2026 He made changes. He was the type of guy, single, going out every weekend, spending all of his money. He turned that all around. Yes, he still enjoyed his lifestyle, he still went out with his friends. He didn\u2019t stay home watching TV all weekend. He enjoyed himself, but he was smarter with his money.
\nNow, he\u2019s up to his fifth property, and I\u2019m so proud of Bruce because he had to go against not only what his circle of friends and family were telling him but this belief that he had that blue chip was the only way to go.
\nKevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 In the full version of that interview, you can hear on the\u00a0Your Investment Property<\/em>\u00a0magazine channel and also on the RET channel, that chat with Helen Collier-Kogtevs, more fantastic examples in there.
\nBut more especially, I want to tell you about the offer that she makes, which is a free download where she\u2019s written a paper on how to find a mentor and the benefits from having a mentor. This is a great read. It\u2019s yours absolutely free. Just go and find the podcast on the website. Use the link. We\u2019ll also be letting you know if you\u2019re a subscriber about it in a special broadcast. Watch out for that, and make sure you pick up that special report from Helen Collier-Kogtevs at Real Wealth Australia.
\nThanks Helen. Thanks Sarah. Talk Soon.
\nSarah:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thanks Kevin.
\nHelen:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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