Transcript:<\/strong><\/h4>\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 We\u2019ve reported on this in the past, and more and more, we\u2019re starting to see this emerge as a major problem now. If you are the owner of a property \u2013 an investment property or even your own personal home, probably more so an investment property \u2013 you\u2019re going to really want to have a listen to what we have to say in the next few minutes. Bryan Goodall is the National Sales Manager for a company that is called Octief. Basically, Bryan, your company is on top of the situation with regard to detecting methamphetamine poisoning in properties. Good morning, and welcome to the show.
\nBryan:<\/b>\u00a0 Good morning, Kevin. Thank you very much for having me.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 I read with interest that at least one state government is finding it difficult to get on top of this, paying about $400,000 just to clean up some homes that have been poisoned with methamphetamine. That was in Victoria.
\nBryan:<\/b>\u00a0 That\u2019s absolutely right. And in fact, we use New South Wales as another example. Each year, they knock down six to ten homes that are probably so contaminated that they\u2019re not economically worth cleaning. It\u2019s a massive problem everywhere you go.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Is this increasing? Are you noticing it increasing?
\nBryan:\u00a0 <\/b>The awareness is certainly increasing. We know that the usage \u2013 and we talking per capita \u2013 has nearly tripled in the last five years in Australia. Contamination therefore is bound to increase, also.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Correct me if I\u2019m wrong, Bryan. It\u2019s not so much the fact that people are endangering themselves with this but the poisoning that\u2019s left behind on properties is both hard to clean up and also quite harmful to innocent people like children and even adults.
\nBryan:<\/b>\u00a0 Absolutely. To be quite fair, I think that most people who are using \u2013 as in they\u2019re smoking methamphetamine \u2013 they\u2019re not necessarily out to harm anybody else or to do damage to a property or anything else, but they\u2019re just not aware either of the effects that they\u2019re having. The chemical contamination that they leave behind is both invisible \u2013 you can\u2019t see it and can\u2019t necessarily smell it \u2013 and you have innocent people who come into that room. You might have a future tenant, for example, and they have a small child. No one knows that that contamination is there, and then people start getting sick.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 The onus of investment properties relies very much on property managers to keep them on top of these types of situations. Are they aware of how widespread this is, and are they testing?
\nBryan:<\/b>\u00a0 Some are testing. I\u2019d say that the majority are not testing. It\u2019s quite concerning. I\u2019ve spoken to a number of property managers in the last probably six months or so, and there are a lot of people who don\u2019t believe we have an issue, they don\u2019t see that there\u2019s a real problem there, and they have their heads buried in the sand a little bit. There\u2019s a real differentiating fact here between if we\u2019re talking about a manufacturer\u2019s house, like a clandestine lab where people have been manufacturing methamphetamine inside the house. That\u2019s quite well-known and the awareness is out there. There are movies like Breaking Bad<\/i>, etc. where people already have an image in their heads of what they\u2019re doing to a house and the kind of contamination that can be left. That\u2019s one problem. The other problem is \u2013 like we say \u2013 from people smoking, where we can\u2019t see it, we can\u2019t smell it, we don\u2019t even know that contamination is there, and that\u2019s a whole different story to deal with.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 What are the signs that a property manager should be looking out for?
\nBryan:<\/b> \u00a0Like I said, Kevin, if we\u2019re talking about a house that\u2019s been smoked in, there literally are no signs. It could be as clean and tidy as your house or my house. There\u2019s no staining and are no smells. You don\u2019t know until people start getting sick. Quite often, that\u2019s when these properties are discovered \u2013 when someone has been admitted to hospital on a number of occasions and no one quite knows why they\u2019re getting sick. They get removed from that environment and they start getting well again, and they go back into that environment and they start getting sick. Then testing is done and we realize that there is, in fact, contamination there.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Is there a low-level test that property managers can do to see if this is happening?
\nBryan:<\/b>\u00a0 There certainly is. That\u2019s actually a service that we offer. We call it our Methamphetamine Baseline Screening. That\u2019s a test where we would come out to your premises. We would take samples, send them to the laboratory, and the laboratory would actually give us a result to tell us whether there\u2019s contamination there. From that early result, we can also tell whether the contamination is from manufacture or from use, as well. Kevin:<\/b>\u00a0 We\u2019ve already covered the cost of cleaning up, and that can be quite extensive. It just depends on the amount of poisoning. What does one of those tests cost?
\nBryan:<\/b>\u00a0 The laboratory test is $550 including GST, and that\u2019s available in metro areas.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Certainly something that property managers should be looking into and certainly property owners should be well and truly aware of. If you want to get a bit more information, the website is Octief.com.au. My guest has been Bryan Goodall. Bryan, thank you very much for your time.
\nBryan:<\/b>\u00a0 Thank you, Kevin.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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