{"id":10274,"date":"2017-01-18T01:00:26","date_gmt":"2017-01-17T14:00:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/realestatetalk.com.au\/?p=10274"},"modified":"2017-01-18T01:00:26","modified_gmt":"2017-01-17T14:00:26","slug":"sharing-a-passion-for-property-meighan-hetherington","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/channels.realty.com.au\/realtytalk\/sharing-a-passion-for-property-meighan-hetherington\/","title":{"rendered":"Sharing a passion for property – Meighan Hetherington"},"content":{"rendered":"

 
\nMeighan Hetherington<\/strong> shares a great story about how she discovered the fascination of becoming a property investor and how she now shares that passion with other investors.
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Kevin:<\/b>\u00a0 I\u2019m going to feature an interview now with someone I haven\u2019t spoken to for quite some time, Meighan Hetherington, who is a buyer\u2019s agent from Property Pursuit \u2013 PropertyPursuit.com.au.
\nMeighan, happy New Year. Welcome to the show.
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 Happy new year, Kevin. It\u2019s so good to talk to you again.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Yes, it\u2019s been a while.
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 It has been. It\u2019s been busy.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Well, that\u2019s good. I want to talk to you about the market and about a number of things actually, but I\u2019m really interested to hear from you about your own philosophy. I know you\u2019re a believer in property. Why did you get involved in property investment? What started all that off?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 It was actually back when I was at uni, and my father had a really strong interest in it. He just was a little bit risk-averse and actually didn\u2019t take any action, but it instilled in me that interest in how to make money from property and how to research property and how to make it work for me.
\nIt was back when I\u2019d just finished university, I\u2019d got my first full-time job, and I said to my brother and my father, \u201cLet\u2019s do this. Let\u2019s get a property going.\u201d And we did our first one together.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Those conversations around the kitchen table, did that frame that in your mind \u2013 hearing there about your dad talking but not necessarily taking any action?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 Yes, and I think it\u2019s one of the reasons that I really like the work that we do. It helps people take what might be an idea or a research phase that they\u2019re in and actually take it through to completion and build a portfolio or buy a new home.
\nSo that actual next step of having the confidence to take the action, I think that was the thing that I really wanted to make sure that I got started on quite young. And I gave up a lot to do that. I didn\u2019t do any overseas travel and I really cemented myself in Brisbane by making that first purchase, but something that was really important to me was to get that financial stability quite young.
\nKevin:<\/b> \u00a0Tell me about that first deal with your dad and your brother. How did it come about? Where was it?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 It was in Gordon Park, about five and a half kilometers north of the CBD in Brisbane. At that time, really that was considered a bit of the outskirts of Brisbane. This was in 1998. I was renting a property across the road with a couple of housemates and I kept saying to my dad, \u201cThat\u2019s the kind of property I want to buy.\u201d
\nIt was across the road. It was the high side of the street. It was an old workers\u2019 cottage that clearly hadn\u2019t had any work done to it for about 80 years. Eventually it actually came up for sale, so it was a deceased estate. The sign went up, and the next day, I put an offer in.
\nIt moved quite quickly from then. There were a lot of things that we did wrong on that first purchase and a lot of things that I learned. I think that collection of experiences has been quite valuable to me.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Did you get into that with a view to turning it over, or do you still own it?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 No, I actually turned it over. I was working in corporate at the time, and when I got transferred to Melbourne, I sold that in its entirety to my brother. We were at 50\/50 ownership in it, and my dad had put his house up as the equity so that we could borrow all of the funds to purchase it. We released his equity quite quickly. We did some renovations and were able to release his portion of it.
\nI sold it to my brother, and my brother sold it on the open market actually when I was a real estate agent I think in 2002. The view was to hold it, but I just wasn\u2019t financially in a position where I could do that and live in another state.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Did he give you the listing?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 Yes.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Well done. That\u2019s good. He\u2019d have to, wouldn\u2019t he? He\u2019d never be forgiven.
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 He had no choice.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Interesting to hear you say right at the start of our conversation there about the sacrifice you made. You didn\u2019t travel overseas. What were some of the things that you did do then to get into the property market?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 I\u2019ve never been a very good saver. I have always spent the money that comes into my account when I\u2019ve made it. So I had to change my mindset a little bit to make sure that I had the funds to pay the mortgage and also the renovations that we wanted to do.
\nI did a lot of the work myself, a lot of the painting and scraping and sanding and all of that non-technical trade work. I did the physical nature of that myself, and we saved a lot of money that way. And I rented rooms to other people so that we could get the extra income to do the renovation.
\nThere weren\u2019t breakfasts on Saturday and Sunday mornings. I certainly had a good social life but it was important to me that I made the best out of this first opportunity that I possibly could.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 When you sold to your brother, what did you do after that? Did you go on to buy another property?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 Yes. The next property I bought was in Kedron. I still own that one. Then from there, we\u2019ve gone on to do a variety of different things. Some were buy and hold; some were buy and renovate. Our strategy for our personal home has been to leapfrog ourselves. We would buy something, renovate it, and then use the equity or sell to move up to the next level of home. We did that until we got into our current home, which as my husband says, he\u2019s going out of this one in a box.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 I\u2019ve heard that before. You probably have, too.
\nBased on what your experience is now, if someone wanted to get started in property investing today and they were listening in to this, what advice would you give them? What\u2019s the best advice you could give them?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 I think the thing to be really aware of is that owning property isn\u2019t a right in Australia. Owning property is something that you have to work hard for, and you do have to sacrifice for it. You can\u2019t have everything, and you can\u2019t always have everything that you want in the first property that you purchase.
\nI think the people who are prepared to look at it as a journey rather than a destination are the people who I see actually taking action and building their wealth through property, and having those milestone moments where they are working towards whatever it is \u2013 whether it\u2019s the dream home or an income-producing portfolio or something that they can leverage. It\u2019s probably having the kindness to yourself to say, \u201cI can\u2019t do that and have the property that I want, so which way am I going to go?\u201d and then getting the balance right.
\nWe had a client once who saved $210,000 in cash to buy a property, and we bought for them down in Edens Landing about 10 years ago, but their sacrifice was enormous. They lived in a squalid one-bedroom unit in West End for four years I think it was, three of them, to save that money. That\u2019s extreme sacrifice.
\nIt\u2019s finding the right balance that you still have a life but have the ability to build for your future.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 What\u2019s the best property deal you\u2019ve ever done either for yourself or for someone else?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 There are two actually. One of ours was opportunistic. I say to people, have a plan in mind but always be open to something that pops up that you could not possibly have expected. For us, that unexpected one came in the form of a splitter block in Wavell Heights.
\nWe\u2019d actually looked at it, researched it, and recommended it to a client. That client happened to be traveling overseas at the time and he said, \u201cI just can\u2019t commit to this right now. I\u2019m probably a week away.\u201d And I said, \u201cThey\u2019re presenting offers tonight. It\u2019s multiple offer. Do you mind if we buy it?\u201d He said, \u201cNo. Go for it. Great. Good on you.\u201d
\nAgain, we stand behind our recommendations, and we purchased that one with a view to knocking down a post-war and putting two new builds on it to hold. And as things turned out, the neighbors wanted to buy it, so we were actually able to negotiate a sale for the neighbors that was in excess of the profit that we would have made from doing the job. It was one of those really unusual opportunistic type things, but change your plans to make it fit.
\nThe other one would be that we purchased a property in Toowong for a client about six years ago. It was a big block of land \u2013 809 square meters. The land value on that was only $10,000 less than what we paid and it had a four-bedroom Queenslander. It needed a bit of work but the land content was really high. That\u2019s been, without doubt, the highest performing property that we\u2019ve purchased for a client from a growth point of view.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Was that on two lots?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 Yes. It is a character residential area, so they can\u2019t knock the house down, but it is possible to put a couple of townhouses in the back yard. So there are various options there.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Speaking of that, what do you believe is best \u2013 investment in apartments or houses?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 We\u2019re very cautious about apartments in Brisbane, and I know certainly in some of the other states, as well. It\u2019s supply and demand in equity. Apartments are often purchased by investors and\/or first-home buyers as a lower entry point for getting into the market.
\nWith the amount of supply that\u2019s coming on the market, we are already starting to see that rents are being affected. There is a lot for tenants to choose from at the moment, and they are very strong in their position to negotiate. Rents are actually dropping quite quickly in the unit market, and because of supply, prices are not increasing.
\nWe\u2019re very cautious about units. I\u2019m always a big believer in land content. It is the land that appreciates, and if you\u2019re a capital growth investor, the most value in the land that you can get \u2013 not necessarily the biggest size land but the most value you can get \u2013 and the best position for a capital growth investor is where I would be focusing my energies.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Well said. What\u2019s the most common question you get asked about property, and how do you answer that?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 Actually, I get asked a lot for positively geared property. And unless you have quite a large deposit, it\u2019s just not feasible in Brisbane and certainly not in the other states, either. The average yield in Brisbane at the moment is about 3.6% on a house. I think positively geared as a strategy is something that people get a little bit focused on without really understanding what it is that they\u2019re trying to achieve.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 It\u2019s more an outcome actually, not a strategy.
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 It is, isn\u2019t it? It happens over time. Once we actually bring that back and talk to them about \u201cWhat it is that you\u2019re trying to achieve? How long are you looking to hold this for? What\u2019s your risk profile?\u201d all of those factors, then we can help people to get a better understanding of how property might \u2013 or might not \u2013 help them achieve those goals.
\nProperty isn\u2019t necessarily going to achieve the goals that you think it\u2019s going to achieve. It\u2019s not a be all and end all.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 I just want to round out our chat to Meighan with some of your thoughts about advice. What advice are you going to give your children about property? What will you tell them?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 I\u2019ll be talking to them about the fundamentals quite early. They know that Mommy goes to look at houses on Saturdays and bids at auctions and helps people buy property. So the fundamentals of what that means and that property is something to work towards and that you can make work for you will probably be the basis of the advice that I have for them.
\nI think with them, it\u2019ll be that they\u2019ll be along for the ride because we\u2019re continuing to purchase both residential and commercial. For us personally, they see that in action, and I hope that that will help them to have a really good understanding of what might work for them.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 And the best and worst piece of advice you\u2019ve ever been given about property?
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 Back when I bought that first property, a boyfriend at the time said that his uncle had said to him, \u201cBuy the cheapest car that you can and the most expensive property that you can afford, because the car depreciates and the property appreciates.\u201d That has stuck with me for a long time. I think that that helped me to get the action going. It was just one of those things that clicked with me. It resonated quite strongly.
\nThe worst advice? Certainly people who think that they\u2019re going to buy a property and quickly flip it over and make a profit out of it where they\u2019re paying someone else. I would say a bit of a scary piece of advice that I got early was to buy, renovate, and sell.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 Great talking to you. Meighan Hetherington has been my guest. Meighan is from Property Pursuit buyer\u2019s agents in Brisbane. The website is PropertyPursuit.com.au.
\nMeighan, thank you so much for your time.
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 I am looking forward to a wonderful 2017.
\nKevin:<\/b>\u00a0 I know what you mean. Thank you. Talk to you again soon.
\nMeighan:<\/b>\u00a0 Thanks, Kevin. Bye.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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